Star Wars- Thank me later (cause you'll be reading for a while)

"GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo" (jackolson) 10/09/2014 at 00:31 • Filed to: Star Wars, Nerd

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Simply one of the best things I have ever read on the internet and I can not wait to watch them again, please just take the time to read through it all seems like the author put in a lot of effort.

http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the…

JKER > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 00:39

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Wut. Now I have the urge to watch all of them again but have no idea where to start.

Gamecat235 > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 00:43

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Well, shit. At least now I know how to show them to my daughter.

Eli's Got 2 > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 00:49

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I may not agree entirely, but this is a great read. Thanks for sharing. ROTJ is my fave, btw.

Kanaric > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 00:55

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episode 4 5 and 6 nothing else.

Too many M's > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 01:24

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In other news....LSB on Cinnamon *drool*

StingrayJake > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 05:48

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My wife has never seen any of them, at least not all the way through and focusing on what's going on. I'm trying to get her to see them with me and I'm pretty sure I'm going to completely ignore the prequels. The story of the original trilogy easily stands on its own.

spanfucker retire bitch > StingrayJake 10/09/2014 at 07:00

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Plus if you watch the prequels, the "Luke, I am your Father" line doesn't have quite the gravitas it would normally.

William Byrd > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 07:42

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That. Is. Excellent! Thanks

twochevrons > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 09:24

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I am a huge proponent of machete order. Anything that eliminates Jar Jar is good in my book – my wife and I rewatched the whole series (including Ep. 1) recently, and I had forgotten just how annoying he was. Also, young Natalie Portman really couldn't act, and I can't stand whiny Anakin, either as a kid, or as a surly young adult.

Another fantastic bit of Star Wars geekery is the amazing ' Despecialized Edition ' project – it's a fan-made edit that uses original negatives and some clever restoration techniques to produce an HD-quality edition of the films as they were initially shown, minus all the CGI and altered scenes that Lucas added in the 1997 'Special Edition' version. As a result, they don't quite mesh so well with the prequels, but they're awesome nonetheless, and, in my opinion, the hamfisted CGI of the Special Edition looks far more dated today than the practical effects of the originals do.

PS9 > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 09:25

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Not reading, due to the author's extreme anti-machete juggling stance.

claramag, Mustaco Master > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 09:27

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I for one am holding out for Topher Grace's edit of the prequels into one 85 min film to leak. That, combined with Adywan's Star Wars Revisited should make for a great star wars experience

I figure they can all come out by the time I'm 30 it'll be plenty of time to fine someone, make a baby, and let it grow

The Transporter > GTRZILLAR32-Now saving for Godzilla and a condo 10/09/2014 at 11:11

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Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I also never knew that someone did the dirty work of restoring the HD versions of the film back to their original theatrical edit.

The Transporter > Kanaric 10/09/2014 at 11:30

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One thing that I had a problem with in the original trilogy, even before the sequels came out, was that in episode VI, Luke's decision seems fairly obvious and straightforward. Of course he'll reject the dark side of the force, why wouldn't he? The gravity of the moment gets kind of lost. It seemed less obvious to me before the sequels came out, but once I saw II and III the parallels and comparisons became more obvious and Luke's decision becomes less clear. After all, up to that point in the original trilogy, Luke has done everything like is father. Both started out as whiny, obnoxious, and compulsive teenagers who lose the whiny and obnoxious part as they grow up, but at the cost of having their compulsive side reach rather self destructive levels. When watched back to back, then there's no reason why he should act any differently than his father.

I'm not saying that II and III are fundamentally good films. In fact it would have been better if the original trilogy had actually been four films with Episode VI: The Clone Wars providing the necessary flashback to Anakin Skywaker's back story to parallel Luke's in preparation for Episode VII: Return Of the Jedi . But since nobody has managed to re-edit II and III into a single, less shitty film, this is all we have to work with.

Kanaric > The Transporter 10/09/2014 at 18:13

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Episode 6 was for sure the weakest of that series.

The thing with those previous episodes is there was no groundwork laid out before of the prequel episodes. If anything the groundwork was laid out around Jedi came out.

The problem i have with the prequel trilogy is that you had Episode 1, the kids movie. Episode 2, the special effects spectacular. There was no great space battles like on the original trilogy despit it being an interstellar war instead they had some massive hand to hand ground comat scene like it was medieval times or something. Episode 3 then you have Anakin acting like an idiot the whole time pretty much making me lose repspect I had for Darth Vader.

I don't imagine the original trilogy having the prequels in mind at all. I see the prequels being written well after the orginal trilogy and it shows. Like when Leia says that she remembers her mother being sad for example and other gaffes like that.

The way I would have like the prequel would be even more matching the original trilogy. No child-anakin for example. More space content. No fanservice by having Boba Fett and things like that. More concentration on what made the original trilogy work. What made it work was that they were emulating Flash Gordon. The prequel trilogy did not even attempt that and it suffered IMO.

The most annoying thing is there was too much antiquated gag humor. The New York 1950s malt shop in the middle of corusant complete with fat hair brooklyn accent alien. The jewish and black guy aliens. The comedy of errors of Anakin as a child killing all kinds of enemies in his space ship. The random cutesy things the enemy droids would say. It was way too much for me. The original trilogy was NOTHING like that aside Jedi with the Ewoks even then there it was relatively mild.

The Transporter > Kanaric 10/09/2014 at 19:35

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I think what happened is that he had a very general outline of what happened in episodes I-III, although he probably never intended to film them. Most SF and fantasy writers will do something like that when world building and fleshing out characters. However, with the success of A New Hope and Empire he realized that he could make more money if he turned those rough outlines into films. At that point it was all about making money for him, which is why Gary Kurtz quit as his producer and why the Ewoks exist in Jedi .

In the meantime, he got caught up doing other things and by the time he got back around to the prequels his politics and world view had changed drastically. You can tell this with the number of odd and contradictory things in the prequels. Things like the fact that Amidala is a 14 year old queen who's been democratically elected by the people of Naboo. Nothing about that last sentence makes any damned sense. It's like he had second thoughts about the fact that one of his main characters was a child queen, but didn't want to completely get rid of the romance of that fact. You also have the weird age discrepancy between Anakin and Amidala, like he wanted both of them to be the same age originally, but thought he could reach (aka sell stuff to) younger kids if he made Anakin arbitrarily five years younger. Then there's Jar Jar. And th copious amounts of fan service.

These are just things that I remember from Episode I because that movie so turned me off to the prequels that I've only seen II and III once each.

Kanaric > The Transporter 10/09/2014 at 19:49

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What's ridiculous is with the reason kids like the first Star Wars movies so much is that the kids wanted to be Luke. They didn't want to be a 10 year old, they wanted to be a teen or 20s something and fighting against the empire. That is how people imagined it as a kid, at least me. Nobody wanted to be Anakin in Episode 1. If anything the character that younger people associated with in that movie was Obi Wan.

I do agree with everything you say. I have saw Episode 3 twice but the others only once each. The fact you reminded me that Amidala was elected as a 14 year old numbs my brain, lol. It's weird because his politics shouldn't of had anything to do with it. Star Wars was also a Flash Gordon or medieval kind of a story. That is so frustrating lol.

I'm hoping JJ Abrams keeps the retro-futuristic style of the series instead of Iphoning it up like he did with Star Trek. The Star Trek movies would be good Star Wars movies so i'm optimistic. I only wish he made that retro-futuristic, kind of like the Star Trek movies in the 80s. I'm guessing with Star Wars he will. If he doesn't there will be major butthurt unlike he's ever seen.

It's funny because that's not really "retro futuristic" in the Star Wars or Treks case, that's just how people imagined the future then but it just looks really good.